Question and Answers about a Guru
( Guru Vishayak Prashnoutter )
( Guru Vishayak Prashnoutter )
Shree Hari
Question: Some people claim that there is nothing wrong in making such people disciples who otherwise would be converted to Islam or Christianity?
Answer: This is a totally wrong statement. Those who wish to become Muslims or Christians, shall never come to a Guru. Alternatively if somebody becomes a Muslim or Christian on Guru's refusal to initiate him, the Guru will not be held guilty. But if the Guru initiates a disciple and does not allow him to go anywhere else for attaining salvation and he himself is not worthy to lead the disciple to salvation, he will certainly be held guilty. Such a Guru is certainly not a Guru. By becoming a disciple a person is restrained from taking refuge in God; instead, he takes refuge in the Guru, he is forced to bind himself with the guru instead of God it is a great sin and injustice.
Question: "Guru kijai jaan ke, paani peejai chaan ke" It is said that "know a spiritual master before making him a Guru; filter water before drinking it", then what is the means to get to know a Guru? How to cross-examine a Guru?
Answer: You are not capable of testing or cross-examining a Guru. If you were able to test a Guru, then you have become the Guru of the Guru. Can one who can test a Guru be any thing less than the Guru? The one who can examine a Guru, is great. In such a state, it is best that you not make anyone a Guru and simply engage in spiritual discourses and self-study, and whatever talks appear to be appealing, imbibe them in your life. Have association of such saints in whose company, your intensity for God Realization increases, bad conduct and bad qualities naturally go away on their own, and good qualities and good conduct come on their own, when God is remembered in a special way, when faith and trust in God increases, without even asking questions, the doubts are resolved on their own and the spiritual guide desires to take nothing from us. Benefit from them without engaging in a Guru-Disciple relationship. If you see any faults in him, or something appears to not be right, then leave that place. (to be continued)
Answer: This is a totally wrong statement. Those who wish to become Muslims or Christians, shall never come to a Guru. Alternatively if somebody becomes a Muslim or Christian on Guru's refusal to initiate him, the Guru will not be held guilty. But if the Guru initiates a disciple and does not allow him to go anywhere else for attaining salvation and he himself is not worthy to lead the disciple to salvation, he will certainly be held guilty. Such a Guru is certainly not a Guru. By becoming a disciple a person is restrained from taking refuge in God; instead, he takes refuge in the Guru, he is forced to bind himself with the guru instead of God it is a great sin and injustice.
Question: "Guru kijai jaan ke, paani peejai chaan ke" It is said that "know a spiritual master before making him a Guru; filter water before drinking it", then what is the means to get to know a Guru? How to cross-examine a Guru?
Answer: You are not capable of testing or cross-examining a Guru. If you were able to test a Guru, then you have become the Guru of the Guru. Can one who can test a Guru be any thing less than the Guru? The one who can examine a Guru, is great. In such a state, it is best that you not make anyone a Guru and simply engage in spiritual discourses and self-study, and whatever talks appear to be appealing, imbibe them in your life. Have association of such saints in whose company, your intensity for God Realization increases, bad conduct and bad qualities naturally go away on their own, and good qualities and good conduct come on their own, when God is remembered in a special way, when faith and trust in God increases, without even asking questions, the doubts are resolved on their own and the spiritual guide desires to take nothing from us. Benefit from them without engaging in a Guru-Disciple relationship. If you see any faults in him, or something appears to not be right, then leave that place. (to be continued)
From book "Is Salvation Not Possible without a Guru?" by Swami Ramsukhdasji
Ram Ram
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If in doubt regarding the translation, please read the original Hindi message by Swamiji.
FOR MESSAGE IN HINDI PLEASE VISIT Date : 28th August, 2012 Guru Vishayak Prashnoutter http://www.satcharcha.blogspot.in
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