Wednesday, October 12, 2011

Means of Purifying the Inner Senses
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Question -  Swamiji, we understand the point you are making, but even on understanding, as such we do not quite understand.  
Swamiji -  Brother, the point is only one.  And that is – you do not give up desire for pleasures and sense enjoyment.  Let me enjoy pleasures and let me hoard more and more – these two things are there.  Let me have these things, let me have more money,  let me have lordship and with that let me indulge in pleasures – these are all the main obstacles.  Neither is pleasures an obstacle, nor is hoarding. It is the desire for hoarding and desire for sense pleasures that are the main obstacles.  With this desire, there cannot be gains of any sort, and there is no further loss that is remaining.  Hell, 8.4 million wombs,  grief, burning sensation, worries, fear – these all are in this desire. 
Questioner – What has to be done to get rid of these desires? 
 SwamijiHow can others be benefited?  How can others be happy?   How can others get respect?   How can others get rest and relaxation?  When one develops intentness, intense interest in this sentiment, where desire for our own happiness and pleasures, replaces with intense interest and desire to see to other's happiness,    then desire for our own pleasures and hoarding will come to an end.  If it does not end, then let me know! 
He who is engrossed in other's welfare, to him God has shown the attainment of both God with attributes and God without attributes.  In attainment of God with attributes,  it has been said -  "te praanuvanti maameva sarvabhoota hiteh rataah."  (Gita 12/4)  and for attainment of God without attributes it has been said -  "Labhante brahmanirvaanamrushayah … sarvabhootahiteh rataah"  (Gita 5/25). 
Considering these to be from the path of knowledge you turn away from it,  O' Merciful One! Do not do this!  In all three -  Jnana,  Bhakti, and Karma – discrimination (vivek) are useful.   Without the power of discrimination, your practices will not go smoothly and properly.  Power of discrimination is also useful, for those who want to attain the heaven, want to attain perfection even though it is with desire for fruit.   His body will remain right here, than who will be the one to go to heavens?   Therefore, there is great significance of "power of discrimination" (vivek).  Discrimination is very useful for he who desires his upliftment. He who is indifferent to this are making a very grave mistake.  God has begun the Gita with the body and the indweller in the body as being two separate.  They are not one.  In fact this is the only truth, the reality.  One has to realize this truth.   If you don't realize the truth, then what will you realize? 
Questioner -  Is power of discrimination (vivek) a form of God?   
Swamiji – Yes, it becomes so.  Vivek (power of discrimination) is the name of two things, and God is One.  Vivek becomes one with God (Paramatma, supreme consciousness).  Instead of vivek, only God remains.
Question -  How to awaken that vivek (power of discrimination)? 
Swamiji -  I am racking my brain for this point itself.  You and me together, right now what are we doing?  We are talking about awakening the discriminative faculty.  There is no need for practice or inquiry in awakening the discriminatory faculty.  There cannot be liberation with practice, and through thinking and inquiry there is nothing remaining of liberation.  
Narayana !  Narayana !! Narayana !!!
From "Bhagwat Praapti ki Sugamtaa"  in Hindi and English  by Swami Ramsukhdasji
If in doubt regarding the translation, please read the original Hindi message by Swamiji.
FOR MESSAGE IN HINDI PLEASE VISIT Date : 8th October, 2011 – Antahakaran ki Shuddhi ka Upaai 

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